I'm sorry, but what time period is this again.?Because i'm looking at these elevators and ...

Currently, it's 1889 in the manga. And the radar technology is actually quite common for that time. The design is a little more futuristic, but the technology is within the timeline. And considering we are close to the First World war, it's not that surprising.

Radio waves Radio waves were first predicted by mathematical work done in 1867 by Scottish mathematical physicist James Clerk Maxwell. Maxwell noticed wavelike properties of light and similarities in electrical and magnetic observations. He then proposed equations that described light waves and radio waves as waves of electromagnetism that travel in space, radiated by a charged particle as it undergoes acceleration. In 1887, Heinrich Hertz demonstrated the reality of Maxwell's electromagnetic waves by experimentally generating radio waves in his laboratory. Many inventions followed, making use of these 'Hertzian' waves to transfer information through space.

So yeah, the radar's fall within the timeline. There was some modern tech in the first few arcs, but Yana has since gotten rid of them for more historic accuracy.

Radar (historically) was not introduced until 1935 - see wiki info - this is a little early for the time line ... sorry - I am a historian and this is not historically accurate if the year is 1889 (The history of radar starts with experiments by Heinrich Hertz in the late 19th century that showed that radio waves were reflected by metallic objects. This possibility was suggested in James Clerk Maxwell's seminal work on electromagnetism. However, it was not until the early 20th century that systems were able to use these principles were becoming widely available, and it was German inventor Christian Hülsmeyer who first used them to build a simple ship detection device intended to help avoid collisions in fog (Reichspatent Nr. 165546). Numerous similar systems, which provided directional information to objects over short ranges, were developed over the next two decades.

The development of systems able to produce short pulses of radio energy was the key advance that allowed modern radar systems to come into existence. By timing the pulses on an oscilloscope, the range could be determined and the direction of the antenna revealed the angular location of the targets. The two, combined, produced a "fix", locating the target relative to the antenna. In the 1934–1939 period, eight nations developed independently, and in great secrecy, systems of this type: Great Britain, Germany, the United States, the USSR, Japan, the Netherlands, France, and Italy. In addition, Great Britain shared their information with the United States and four Commonwealth countries: Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa, and these countries also developed indigenous radar systems. During the war, Hungary was added to this list.[1] The term RADAR was coined in 1939 by the United States Signal Corps as it worked on these systems for the Navy)

Your knowledge of this really astonishes me! I've always held historians in great respect, and always admired them! I wanted to be one, but the information is just so much :(
But it's awesome how you can draw in history like that.

Thanks, but this info was actually taken directly from wikipedia (I did double check my history books - I have a Bachelors Degree in History) but I was too lazy to type all that info myself *snicker* (besides my specialization is actually medieval history)

Actually, you are wrong Hanne.

Radio waves were first predicted by mathematical work done in 1867 by Scottish mathematical physicist James Clerk Maxwell.[1] Maxwell noticed wavelike properties of light and similarities in electrical and magnetic observations. He then proposed equations that described light waves and radio waves as waves of electromagnetism that travel in space, radiated by a charged particle as it undergoes acceleration. In 1887, Heinrich Hertz demonstrated the reality of Maxwell's electromagnetic waves by experimentally generating radio waves in his laboratory.[2] Many inventions followed, making use of these 'Hertzian' waves to transfer information through space.

Radar technology may not have been released until 1935, but that doesn't mean the technology wasn't been developed. People studied it in secret, as you can see along with the Mustard Gas being developed. So you are wrong about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_wave

You should probably have done your research a little more. We're talking about radio waves. The necklaces they wore had something in them that sent out radio waves so they could be tracked.

Whoops, sorry, I meant. "You probably should have paid a little more attention to Sebastian this chapter. He pretty much pointed that out."

Please Katty shut up. Here you go again trying to prove someone wrong and making others sound like idiots.

Oh well enough with this discussion, there are many manga where the story-line are from the late 1800 or 1900 but somehow their technology and fashion are as advanced as ours. We should be thankful that this manga was an exception... this manga is from the last 1800's
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kuroshitsuji/an/kuroshitsuji-chapter-27.html/41/

Radar is not common in 1889, it it very very new and unproven technology. Wiki: As early as 1886, German physicist Heinrich Hertz showed that radio waves could be reflected from solid objects. In 1895, Alexander Popov, a physics instructor at the Imperial Russian Navy school in Kronstadt, developed an apparatus using a coherer tube for detecting distant lightning strikes. The next year, he added a spark-gap transmitter. In 1897, while testing this equipment for communicating between two ships in the Baltic Sea, he took note of an interference beat caused by the passage of a third vessel. In his report, Popov wrote that this phenomenon might be used for detecting objects, but he did nothing more with this observation
Your information seems to be somewhat incomplete ...

LOL :')) these guys. you see 'em? and those over there. right?

That is definitely true. artists do take a lot of liberties if it suits their purposes. Plus there are a lot of them that play with history, so we should not take this stuff so seriously ... this is fantasy after all. *wink*

Yeah i noticed there were a few situations that seemed out of place for the timeline. I just wanted to know because of what sebastian had said. It would interesting if these random bursts of futuristic technology technology played into a bigger story where Ciel got a glimpse into the future or something and not just the mangaka being innaccurate.

*PS i gave myself a name because someone else posted as anonymous

Well then Hanne, I guess we'll both just have to say we're right on this one, given we both got our info off Wiki. (Wiki can't be trusted sometimes.) And given that authors love to take a bit of liberty with history. At least we can appreciate Yana trying to stay within the timeline.

Well, she did say she double checked her history books and has a bachlor degree in history, so I don't see how she's only getting her information through wikipedia (she said she was too lazy to type)... And I'm not sure how both of you may be right, as one is saying it's in timeline but the other one says it doesn't, which are pretty much opposites. It can't really be both ways, but really it's no big deal.

Hmmm... all the arguments over wiki information, so I went to the History Learning Site.uk and found this information:

Robert Watson-Watt is given the credit for inventing the radar. The first experimentations into what we would define as radar came in 1888 when Heinrich Hertz discovered that radio waves could be bounced off objects. In 1904, Christian Hulsmeyer patented an early warning system for shipping. Therefore, Watson- Watt did have prior research to inspire him.

In 1935, Watson-Watt was asked to the Air Ministry to investigate the possibility of creating a 'death-ray' weapon using radio waves. At the time, Watson-Watt was working for the National Physical Laboratory in Slough. He did not invent a 'death-ray' weapon but he did find that his radio transmitters could create an echo from an plane that was over 200 miles away. Such a distance would give the RAF an early warning of an attack. As his work was done during the build-up to World War Two, such an invention was invaluable to the RAF that believed it was significantly weaker than the Luftwaffe. During the Battle of Britain, the Germans lost the element of surprise.

Thus this really is not saying true to a time line, but really, it does not matter if the time line is really or not, as this is a work of pure fantasy with some historical information tossed in as fodder.

It is still a great manga

I'm betting the Hanne is actually right. She's got a bachelors in history, so she's not just checking wiki. Even by looking at it, this is a little too advanced. But it is fantasy.

The mangaka does not stay within time lines ... even in the first chapter, she introduces Superman (a Canadian superhero that is not created until the mid 1930s) and there are a number of cars in this manga too - cars were very few and far between and the first ones on the road were made by Daimler Chrysler in 1892. So, please, pay better attention yourself. This is fantasy and the mangaka is not sticking to any actual time lines in a number of places.

Oh, and the cell phone (almost 100 years too early!)
http://i5.mangapicgallery.com/r/newpiclink/kuroshitsuji/3/6ff85d24f83e42fc559ba738ef8c1b44.jpeg

She pretty much got rid of that after the earlier chapters. Even in the anime they altered some of them, the cellphone being bulkier and such. Now most if not all of the modern technology seen in the manga is owned only by the shinigamis.
Earlier chapters really didn't intend to be historically correct, I mean what is the italian mafia in pretty modern clothes at that doing in Victorian England? xD

Zenalear is correct, Yana noticed those mistakes after the Curry arc and I guess she said, alright I'm going o fix this now. So she's been trying to keep her facts straight, while trying to make the story strong (reason for some inconsistencies.). As for the Shinigami, it's always been my thought that since Death isn't, necessarily, bound by time they could get futuristic weapons.. Either that or their weapons inspired our gardening tools. (Did you guys notice that all their weapons relates to gardening, or was that just me.)

As whose right, no one is wrong, apart from the info you got, Nightfall. They didn't even credit James Clerk Maxwell, who truly discovered the waves. As for technology, it was pointed out to me that after Hertz proved Maxwell's radio waves, many developed inventions based around this discovering in secret, until somebody revealed their invention later on.

But as many said, it doesn't matter. It's still a good manga. And liberties with history happen. A perfect example would be the new Dracula movie that's coming out this month.